TC39 Phone Conference, 08 Jan 2008

Attendees

Douglas Crockford, Yahoo!
Cormac Flanagan, UCSC
Chris Pine, Opera
Allen Wirfs-Brock, Microsoft
Pratap Lakshman, Microsoft
Jeff Dyer, Adobe
Waldemar Horwat, Google
Graydon Hoare, Mozilla
Brendan Eich, Mozilla
Lars T Hansen, Adobe
Pascal Perez, Google
John Shapiro, Adobe

Agenda

Adoption of the agenda
Approval of the 18 December 2007 minutes
Reminders
- Add yourselves to the attendees list if you’re not on it!
- Date and place of next meetings
  - 24-25 January 2008, in Mountain View, CA (Google)
    - 24 January: 11:00 - 17:00
    - 25 January: 10:00 - 16:00
  - 6-7 March 2008, in Redmond, WA (Microsoft)
- Phone conference time
  - We are back to our old time, 09:00 - 10:00 PST (18:00 - 19:00 CET)
Action items pending with (deadlines) and [date of origin]
- BE/AWB: Process for making ecmascript.org semi-(un)official TG1 web site (04 Dec 2007) [27 Nov 2007]
  - BE claimed this item at the last meeting
  - PAST DEADLINE
- AWB: RI copyright (24 Jan 2008) [13 Nov 2007]
- GH/JD: related to #282, investigate namespace primitives that allow packages to be completely desugared [15 Jan 2008]
- LH: Progress on tickets 276 (”this” propagation) and 7 (C.prototype) [04 Dec 2007]
- DC: Secure ES initiative (24 Jan 2008) [13 Nov 2007]
Process items
Open issues. This section is closed. Later additions go into the following section.
- One week from deadline
  - #275 / #317: Number parsing proposals [Dec 04]
  - #281: Reintroduction of autoboxing under some controlled circumstances [Dec 04]
Late additions containing clean proposals for resolution
- #111: Destructuring shorthand - propose that this is adopted [Jan 08]
- #297: New variable object for eval if version > 3 [Jan 08]
- #323: Explicit syntax for tail calls - propose that this is rejected [Jan 08]
Discussion ongoing in ticket (or otherwise awaiting clarifications), may not be worth discussing on the phone but we must make progress soon
- At deadline
  - #276: Specific rules of this propagation [Nov 27]
- One week from deadline
  - #7: What is the type of C.prototype (re-clarification) [Dec 04]
  - #319: Clarification of multiple parameters to new operator applied to structural array type [Dec 04]
- No deadline assigned
  - #112: const
  - #233: fixtures and DontDelete
Adjournment

Public Minutes

Tickets #275 / #317
- Number.parse appears uncontroversial (though may at least need to allow +/-)
- What are int.parse etc meant for – machine input, user input? Are the switches (losslessConversion) and other lenient behavior really necessary?
- PP/BE action item: Use cases to guide selection of use cases
#281
- Approved
#111
- Approved
#297
- Approved
#323
- Lots of discussion, no resolution yet